Monday, June 18, 2012

Japanese Seaweed Salad - the restaurant secret, and my quest for the best

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(Seaweed Salad)


The words 'Seaweed Salad' usually conjur images of vibrant, neon green, angel-hair threads of seaweed, tangled with a light sesame dressing and served at every Japanese restaurant. I love this salad. I crave this salad. So I set out to make this salad.

I started my journey with a whirlwind trip through Asia. In one afternoon, I visited three different Asian markets. In each, I struggled to climb the language barrier to ask for the seaweed I wanted. The response was always the same - first, they led me to the dried seaweeds. These are the most commonly available seaweeds, like kelp, Wakame, and sheets of Nori. While Wakame can be rehydrated and turned into a salad, it isn't in the same ballpark as the bright, fresh seaweed I was in search of.

"Seaweed salad," I told them. Ah! The words sparked familiarity, and I was led to the refrigerated section and handed a small container of pre-made, ready to eat salad.
"Yes," I said. "This - but I want to make this." And time after time, each Asian grocer told me it couldn't be done. One tried to explain they didn't carry it, didn't know where I would be able to get it... other's simply shook their heads and laughed. I couldn't understand - if they sold the salad, why not the ingredients for it?

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(This is also sometimes called a 'Chuka' salad, a term used in Japanese cuisine for foods which came from, or supposedly originated, in China.)

So I went home and did some research. What I learned is, there are a lot of different types of seaweed! With so many varieties, and different names for each depending on who you ask, it's no wonder there's so much confusion. The lack of labeling (in English) and sometimes mislabeling, doesn't help, either. So here's my understanding:

Wakame - is most commonly sold dried. It is more leafy than stringy, and can be rehydrated in cold water for several minutes, resulting in a tender, deep green, and mildly flavored seaweed. It is often used in soups, such as miso, and salads either on its own or in combination with other vegetables. Note that some Japanese seaweed salads are labeled as 'Hiyasha Wakame'. It is my understanding that this refers to fresh (not dried) Wakame stems (not leaves).
Ogonori - sometimes called sea moss, is the source of Agar. I noticed in researching seaweed salads that many say they contain agar, which led me to believe that this was the seaweed I was looking for. It is common along the coast of Japan, as well as Hawaii and the Caribbean. It is always served fresh and cold, such as in salads, but since I couldn't find any I was unable to verify its shape or texture.
Tosaka - tosaka nori comes in three different colors: red (aka-tosaka), green (ao-tosaka), and white (shiro-tosaka). According to one Japanese restaurant, it is also served fresh and cold as a salad. It is said to be sold packed in salt in the freezer section, but once again, I was unable to find any.

Armed with a (slightly) better grasp of what I was looking for, I returned to my quest and visited two more Asian markets. I found several different kinds of fresh seaweed, packed in salt and refrigerated, but none seemed to be what I was looking for.

Then, at last, I found what I needed - what I really, truly was looking for - someone who spoke English! I quickly explained what I wanted, and was told the biggest piece of information I would never have learnt on my own: Seaweed salads are pre-made. They are shipped that way, frozen, to Asian restaurants and grocers from companies in Japan and China. The specific ingredients to make them are not sold separately, at least not around here.

You can imagine, after so much time spent searching, my disappointment. After speaking with the store owner about the different frozen, salt-packed seaweeds they did carry, I decided to try "Salted Seaweed Stems" as the closest alternative.

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(Salted Seaweed Stems)

These are fresh, long tendrils of noodle-like seaweed. They are a bright green color, and taste of the ocean. To prepare, they must be thoroughly rinsed and soaked to remove the salt. After soaking for several hours, I found they were still quite tough to chew - I would recommend soaking in hot or boiling water, to achieve a softer texture.

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These are much thicker, tougher, and chewier than that in traditional seaweed salads. I also found that because the salad wasn't as thread-like, it held much less of the dressing, making it bland. Not a terrible attempt, but by no means what I had set out to accomplish. In the future, I will probably stick to rehydrated Wakame when the seaweed-at-home cravings hit.

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My biggest disappointment in all of this is learning that the dish I love is not the doing of any of my favorite restaurants, but a supplier (like this one) half-way around the world. But at least I can get them; my favorite part of a bento box, or a side to a plate of sushi. The little tangle of greens I save for the end, the best for last...

If nothing else, I made a lot of discoveries about Asian cuisine, including making some connections at my local markets. I also concocted a pretty amazing dressing for my salad, which I intend to find ways to repurpose, so stay tuned for that!


What's your favorite way to eat seaweed? Let me know in the comments!


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6/21/12
*Update* - after a little more research, I can be relatively certain that the seaweed used is a form of fresh wakame. Japanese seaweed salads are made with Hiyashi Wakame, and are sometimes referred to as Goma Wakame (or, sesame seaweed).
There are many different suppliers of seaweed salads, including some who customize orders for their clients, which explains why different restaurants carry different salads. Some suppliers use food colorings and preservatives, while others do not.
Interestingly, almost all manufacturer's are based out of China, lending credence to the term 'Chuka Wakame Salad', denoting it as a dish originating from China, but incorporating Japanese flavors.





 

56 comments:

  1. I like that you're dedicated and persistent. Nice salad!

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    1. Thanks! It was a pretty tiresome hunt for information, for sure.

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  2. that looks delicious! i've never really gotten on the 'seaweed train' but that salad looks so tasty, i might just be persuaded to try!

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    1. I definitely recommend trying seaweed salad, but keep in mind the salad in my photos (while close) is not the incredible seaweed salad you have to experience. Try ordering one from a Japanese restaurant sometime, it's one of my favorites!

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  3. Really exotic! I had a special kind of seaweed salad in a Japanese Resto a few years back. It was a little slimy and weird at first, but tasted really good and opened up my appetite after a few tries. It had tomatoes and a bit of lemon, if I could remember it right. This looks appetizing too!

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  4. There is an amazing Sushi place in Florida that we love, and my favorite part is always the seaweed salad. I CRAVE it.

    I am so sad to know that it's just...something that is premade. *sigh*

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  5. simply gorgeous. I love seaweed salad, but my favorite way is the sushi route. It add a nice bite :)

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  6. Huh, interesting, I had no idea. I haven't explored with cooking with seaweed before, but I need to seek it out at my neighborhood Asian grocery store.

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    1. There are a lot of kinds out there - I'd love to know what you find out!

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  7. My husband and I have been on the same quest. Exact experience strangely. Store owners have no idea what's in them or where to purchase them. I'm convinced the alluring green is actually food coloring. The clearish ones are agar agar and you can buy that but the nice green ones-mystery. Maybe some day. Until then $5.49/lb plastic tubs of seaweed salad at the local Asian mart it is.

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  8. My husband and I have been on the same quest. Exact experience strangely. Store owners have no idea what's in them or where to purchase them. I'm convinced the alluring green is actually food coloring. The clearish ones are agar agar and you can buy that but the nice green ones-mystery. Maybe some day. Until then $5.49/lb plastic tubs of seaweed salad at the local Asian mart it is.

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    1. Nice to know I'm not alone, here! I have a hunch that it is Ogonori, or some fresh variety of Wakame not availale here... and I've heard the food coloring theory before, but of all the labels I've read I've never seen it listed. Definitely a mystery!

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  9. I admire your persistence and determination! I like that you did a post on something you tried that had an unexpected outcome- your experience is educational for all of us!

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    1. I'm glad to see it's been helpful to others - I was bummed to not have a recipe to share, but by the end I thought 'well, I've certainly got a story to tell!' :)

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  10. I have never had seaweed salad before - what is wrong with me!

    and can we talk about your crazy journey trying to find the ingredients only to find out the Salad is pre-made...I can just picture you know talking to the little chinese ladies and men trying to explain what you wanted to make- they must have been so confused, knowing that it is a premade salad!

    Love that baord - did you make it yourself? Instructions please!

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    1. Oh, you should definitely try it sometime! Fairly certain it's sweetened with sugar, not honey.

      I wish I had made that piece, but I was actually at my mom's house when I took the pictures and it's just a bench she has, sitting in a window with plants on it most of the time. I saw it and was like "Bingo! Good lighting, nice backdrop, good to go!"

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  11. you have answered so many questions i have had for so long!!! ive also been searching for the right seaweed for a "restaurant" style seaweed salad. disapointed that i cant make it on my own, but glad to finally know!

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  12. This is one of my favorite dishes as well and I am often hesitant to eat anywhere except Whole Foods and 2 particular Sushi restaurants who order from one of the few vendors that doesn't add food coloring and other crap. I love your persistence!

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    1. That's good to note! And I wouldn't have thought to look at WF, but that's good to know that they carry it.

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  13. Thanks for the post!! I just had this same conversation with some Chinese and Japanese coworkers and they were convinced I'd be able to find it!

    They couldnt believe that I had been looking for the right seaweed for about 5 years. I'm glad to know I wasnt alone in my endeavor! but I"ll stop looking now, lol

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  14. Thanks for the post!! I just had this same conversation with some Chinese and Japanese coworkers and they were convinced I'd be able to find it!

    They couldnt believe that I had been looking for the right seaweed for about 5 years. I'm glad to know I wasnt alone in my endeavor! but I"ll stop looking now, lol

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    1. You're welcome! It's crazy that such a seemingly simple ingredient isn't available, but I'm so glad I was able to solve the mystery. I had done so much looking online, and had no luck finding answers.

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  15. I've definitely been on the same hunt as you and was equally disappointed to find out there was no way to make this at home. I LOVE seaweed. Ended up buying the salted seaweed stems, as you did and found them way too briny. But the ones I bought definitely weren't as chewy as you described them.

    Have you tried looking in Korean markets? That's where I got my seaweed stems. Super salty, but the texture was pretty close to the seaweed salad served in restaurants/pre-made.

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    1. I did try Korean markets, but none of the ones I went to had anything like this. It was one of the larger asian markets where I found the seaweed stems I did get... and they were very salty, but after soaking and rinsing and soaking and rinsing, that wasn't a huge problem. The texture was definitely different, though... very chewy/noodley. I'll have to keep my eye out for other types of seaweed stems.

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  16. I've had a few unsuccessful attempts at making the Japanese seaweed salad at home myself. I also love the salad they have at the Japanese restaurant, but after trying a few different types of rehydrated seaweed, gave up. Thank you for dispelling the mystery! I also hadn't thought to look in the refrigerated section at the Asian markets for the salted seaweed.

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    1. Yeah, I started with looking at dried seaweed as well... Very different stuff!

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  17. These photos are so so so gorgeous. My goodness, you are one talented lady! :) Your composition/styling is always so stunning and so perfect. Teach me!!!

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    1. Haha - I'm flattered, Courtney, but I don't know that I have much wisdom to share... I spend a lot of time fiddling around behind the scenes, and end up with a lot of bad photos as a result. I try to learn from the good ones, and do better next time.

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  18. Ingredients
    Dressing: Water, Sesame Oil, Vinegar, Rice Cooking Wine, Sea Salt, Soy Sauce, Kombu Extract, Onion Powder. Salad: Wakame, Wakame Stem, Sesame Seed, Kombu, Agar, Red Pepper.

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    Add water over the seaweed and let it soak for 5 minutes. After 15 minutes, it will triple in volume with softer texture. carefully drain the water. Add the dressing. Mix it well and Enjoy!

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  19. Wow! This is such good info and very helpful! Thank you for taking the time to write this out. I have been curious about making my own seaweed salad for quite some time, because, as I'm sure you know, the pre-packaged ones are: 1) TINY, and 2) EXPENSIVE, considered how little you get. :( I thought making it might be more economical. (a Google Search brought me here, actually...)

    Anyway, now that I know this I won't exactly concede defeat, but rather go in search of an alternative seaweed salad that is made with sea veggies I have access to! Since I won't be expecting an exact duplicate of the nice restaurant ones, I won't be disappointed.

    Thanks again for such a great post. I'm gonna bookmark you... :)

    Cheers,
    Monica.

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    1. You're very welcome, Monica! I'm glad you found this post so quickly and easily... I wish this information had been available to me when I was searching! There are plenty of great seaweed salad recipes out there using dried (and re-hydrated) wakame leaves - it makes for a dark, soggy salad in comparison to what's in the restaurants, but if you're okay with something different can be quite good in their own right. Hope you find something you like! :)

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  20. Thanks for your persistence. I was just about to research this myself and you have saved me from wasting my time. I bought several dried seaweeds in search of this but nothing compares. I am currently soaking some arame, which is okay, but won't really scratch the itch. sigh....

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    1. Glad I could save you the trouble. Definitely a disappointment, but oh well.

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  21. I made the salad with salted seaweed and the taste of the sea was overwhelming. I left it in the salad mixture for a few days and it got better. You are right that the precut seaweed in the frozen section is too thick. I think if I make it again, I'll try to use the dry leaves but soak it real good for a few days, cut it really fine, cook it in boiling water then soak it in the salad dressing mixture for a few days more. The vinegar in the dressing keeps it from going bad and it will soak up the flavor better too. Maybe discard the original dressing and mix in a new batch before serving.
    Also, I think those clear strips that we find in the store made salad are really agar. I used to see them sold in sticks (1 foot long, 1 inch thick) at Asian market to be used for making agar desert. Don't see them being sold anymore. If we can find those, soak and shred them, that may work.
    I found the salad sold in 1 pint box at Cosco. Not expensive and enough to satisfy my craving; but I kind of hate giving up thinking the answer might be right under my nose. :)

    Cheers!

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    1. You're definitely on to something - the clear strips in the pre-made salads are a form of agar, but as far as I know it is fresh agar, as opposed to the dried sheets you can buy and use as a vegan replacement to gelatin. I've been able to confirm that the seaweed used in the salad is fresh (not dried, frozen, salt-packed or anything else) wakame, which is not available on its own. The dried varieties can definitely make a delicious salad, but I've found they don't have the same brightness and texture of the fresh. If you figure out a way to make it work, though, be sure to let me know! And thanks for the tip about costco - I've only ever seen the salad in very small, overpriced boxes... will have to look for that! :)

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  22. I also found this post via Google. I just returned from the Asian market and am rather disappointed by the selection. I'm so glad to know that others have had this problem as well. This post provided a little bit of closure for me. Until now, I've been running around looking for this stuff and getting more and more frustrated. I guess I'll just have to be okay with the premade stuff and rehydrated wakame. Thank you so much for writing about this.

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    1. You're welcome! I'm amazed to see how many people have been looking for this information. I wish it were easier to find out than going through all the trouble I did, but I'm glad my experience has been helpful to you!

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  23. Guys, it is this recipe we are looking for, I guess. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdJOZaQaCEk
    It uses these long seaweed stems mentioned erlier. They are made soft through cooking. It looks pretty much the same and aside from the used surimi, it has the same ingredients. I will try it in the next days.

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    1. That recipe sounds great! It isn't the thin, stringy seaweed salad I was trying to find, though. Those seaweed stems look just like the ones I bought, but I'm sure they would be much better cooked like that, instead of just soaked (very tough and chewy). Will have to give that recipe a try sometime. Thanks for sharing!

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  24. The source of this wonderful salad and how to make it has been a question in my mind for years. Thank you for the great article and the comments and responses as well!

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  25. The pictures in your post of the Seaweed Salad look exactly like the Seaweed Salad that Costco sells. Naturally Costco sells their Seaweed Salad pre-made, and there is enough in the package to last about 5-7 days as the package notes to eat within 1-week of opening package.
    I have almost forgotten about it until I was researching for natural remedies on "boosting" my Iodine. For a while I was eating the Seaweed Salad regularly until I moved and kind of forgot about the salad. Thank you for the reminder.

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  26. I sort of wish I'd read your article before I made my own seaweed stem salad. It's not bad, really, but yeah, not as good at the shipped-halfway-around-the-world-goma-wakame stuff (that's SO expensive). Mine is still too salty though.. I guess I'll have to eat it in small servings or with rice.

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  27. This blog post is so helpful. I've been searching around as well so it is nice to know that I'm not insane or missing something in my searching. Have you tried any of the dried seaweeds that are packaged as "seaweed salad mix"?

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    1. I have tried dried wakame before, but I don't think I've found anything labeled "seaweed salad mix", so I don't know what they're like. As far as I can tell, dried seaweed salads are perfectly fine, but they're very different than the bright-green-strands you can find pre-made.

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  28. Thanks so much for posting this, I was on a quest myself for the same thing and I am glad you saved me the trouble!

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  29. To me the key is the dressing. It's finding the right balance of rice vinegar, sesame oil, sugar & a touch of sweet chili sauce that makes the dish delicious to YOUR taste.

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  30. Oh! It's just a Korean home meal! The picture of the wrapping paper is written in Korean. Its pronunciation is the 'Mi York Jul Gi'. This food is a side dish to eat with rice.

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  31. Thank you. I was just about to start my hunt for ingredients for the wonderful salad I had at L'Attitude Café in Marquette, Mi. It was served with Beef Negamaki which was excellent, but the salad was the star of the show. Whole Foods hear I come!

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  32. I was tired of paying $4 for the side salad at my local grocery store and was trying to find the ingredients to make it myself. I went to a Korean grocery store and bought a pouch of refrigerated noodles. But they are too thick and downright scary looking. I was debating trying a different brand to see if they were cut thinner. But after your experience I will not try to rehydrate the dried seaweed instead. Thanks for the info.

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  33. As I wanted to try make my own chuka wakame salad and it seems like from ur blog and others are saying is actually a chinese food so i went to baidu(similar to wikipedia) to search for it. and I found below information which I think is what we are looking for. I have translated the information using google translate. Hope that you find it useful

    http://baike.baidu.com/link?url=5UD1dc2pU2wJbq2BJe7GF8pCBOD8KLTrhSWZy-ZAS4MB2Rs3VVH3w7dKcvu5groJ#5_7

    Wakame stem (stem)

    Wakame is in leaf processing time, use torn rib and stem production of seaweed products. Ribs are generally cut into strips salted products in the marketplace selling, popular with families in general are welcome. In addition, there will be ribs and stems cut into small pieces in a variety of dishes made of the sales in the market.
    These are trafficked in the Japanese market currently wakame commodities. Japan is now an annual domestic consumption of fresh products wakame about 24 tons, of which consumption is the largest boiling salted wakame. However, the recent development of boiled dried seaweed because of its convenience food, and easy to merit preservation welcomed by consumers, consumption is increasing year by year.

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  34. I have been on your same quest too! It's so funny that so many of us have been confused by this. I have so many packets at home of half eaten dried seaweed that I've been disappointed by in trying to fulfil this. Yesterday I actually just bought a bulk bag of the pre-made one from the korean/chinese grocers. It's the stuff for sure and was still pretty pricey but cheaper than buying all of the little containers of it. The store employees were like, "this is $15, you still want?" and we nodded. After ringing us up they gave us some free coconut popcicles so maybe they were impressed with our dedication! After buying that bag of the yummy pre-made, and all of my failed attempts I started to think "it must be pre-made - I bet the japanese buy the very same bulk packs I just got" so I did a search, found your post and feel like I've finally figured out this mystery (while sort of - you did, but you confirmed my hunch).
    Thank you so much!

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